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The Dawson College Massacre game

‘Despicable’ game based on Dawson College shooting:

As with Columbine and Virginia Tech some tasteless soul took it upon themselves to make a game based on the Dawson College shootings that took place 4 years ago in Montreal. The game was called Dawson College Massacre and was hosted on the bastion of good taste Newgrounds. Which in my opinion is 4chan for flash gamers.

The game was developed by a Newgrounds user who calls himself Virtualman. The goal of the game is to storm Dawson College as Kimveer Gill and kill as many people as possible. I don’t doubt that this Virtualman is a mutant based on his statements to the Canadian press…

“I am not quite sure why I made it, I have been studying these school shooters a long time now and I just see how people want to just push the whole subject under the rug,” he writes.

“I don’t want to say I am 100% sympathetic with killers like this because obviously what they’ve done is pretty sick. But you can most DEFINITELY see the path they took which lead them to commit such a crime.”

The reason people want to push the subject under the rug is in order to keep it from happening again in the future. And if you can tell me what drove Kimveer Gill to storm Dawson college and kill Anastasia De Sousa and injuring others please tell me because as far as I can tell Gill was just a basement dwelling loser who had no trauma in his life that caused him to snap.

Virtualman did at least have the decency to pull the game off of Newgrounds after he found out that Anastasia De Sousa’s family was offended by the game. However this is the internet and once posted nothing ever goes away.

I’m all for free speech even in this ‘nothing is sacred’ era and even though I believe that Virtualman had every right to post his game and no law in Canada or the U.S. could make him take it down it just amazes me that how much human decency some people lack. Games like this and SCMRPG remind me of games I heard about back in the 80s that were traded on the underground. In one such game you played a Nazi soldier who would round up Jews to send them to the oven then use their gold fillings as in game currency. I hate to Godwin this post but yeah, games like this that glorify school shootings are really just as bad.

Kimveer Gill fan page on Facebook

Kimveer Gill fan club pulled from Facebook:

It seems that either the Kimveer Gill mutants, who I will now refer to as gill-men, or some asshole who wanted to stir up some shit has been busy on Facebook.

Briefly on Facebook the other day the Kimveer Gill Fan Club page popped up. It was listed as “The place to be if you think Kimveer Gill was a hero.”

For those of you who may not remember who Kimveer Gill was he was a 25-year-old loser from Montreal who not only lived with his parents but opened fire at Dawson College in Montreal wounding 19 and killing Dawson student Anastasia De Souza before taking the coward’s way out himself. Gill did not even attend Dawson and had staked out other schools as well.

In the interest of transparency Gill even commented on this site. I banned him from the site long before his attack.

Anyway the Facebook fan page had 86 members at the time it was shutdown so even if it was just some jackhole who started it I’m sure there were some gill-men among it’s membership.

I have yet to find any credible reports on whether or not Facebook pulled the page or if it was pulled by its originator.

A lot of people tend not to believe me when I say there are ‘fans’ and ‘worshipers’ of school shootiers yet here we are.  I get the feeling this will just be the first of many of these types of groups on Facebook if there aren’t more already.

A view inside Gill’s mind

Blogs reveal a deteriorating mind, police say:

This article states that not only did Kimveer Gill keep a written journal but he also scouted Dawson College prior to the shooting. But first let me get this out of the way…

But his online musings do not refer specifically to Dawson or his violent plans. However, he repeatedly emphasized that people planning a crime would be stupid to outline their agenda on the Internet.

The comments, made on a Livejournal site called The Trenchcoat over a number of months, included references to various school shootings in the United States and caused him to be banned from writing on the site.

In one, he defends the young people who were charged after a school shooting plot in Riverton, Kan.

“They wern’t [sic] going to do it for real,” Gill wrote. “They’re just kids having a little fun. If they were really going to do this, they would not be posting messages on MySpace and telling people in their school about it.”

You can see what they’re talking about here. I do crosspost at LiveJournal but all comments are only on this site. Now back to the matter at hand…

Kimveer Gill did not restrict his violent thoughts to the blog he kept on VampireFreaks.com. He posted disturbing comments on other Web sites and allegedly jotted them down in a diary, where the entries indicate his mind was deteriorating.

Police investigators found the journal either at the scene of the shooting at Dawson College on Wednesday or while executing a search warrant at his parent’s home in the Fabreville district of Laval.

“From what he wrote, you could tell that he basically hated humanity as a whole. He hated everybody. He hated black people, white people, rich people. He hated everybody,” a police source said.

“It was very obvious his state of mind was deteriorating greatly over the last three weeks.”

But the documents reportedly offer no indication as to why Gill chose to carry out a shooting rampage at Dawson College, killing 18-year-old student Anastasia DeSousa and wounding several other victims.

TVA reported last night that security cameras on the nearby Alexis Nihon Plaza captured Gill scouting out the scene of his attack on Aug. 10, a month before his rampage. Police are viewing the tapes.

So it seems that he did not “snap” like so many people are saying. When someone snaps the reaction is immediate. Gill was nothing more than a cold blooded, calculating killer.

SCMRPG creator comments on Kimveer Gill

Yesterday I said that I had e-mailed Super Columbine Massacre RPG creator Danny Ledonne looking for a comment on the fact that Dawson College shooter Kimveer Gill played his game. This was his response…

I’ve been fielding press on this one all day. Interesting to note that while Kimveer listed dozens of games as favorites, “SCMRPG” is the one listed in the press. On some level, they are proving my point for me: videogames are readily-made scapegoats for violent behavior… this guy was 25 years old and probably needed some serious help.

My one regret is that he never contacted me so I could suggest a different course of action.

Kimveer Gill was here

I was going back over Steve Huff’s entry on Kimveer Gill seeing what comments he was getting. Steve had updated his entry and I read something that made my heart drop…

UPDATE, 5:52 p.m. EDT

Kimveer Gill, as you might expect, didn’t just start aping the style and mannerisms of past psychos like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. He probably had been going down the deadly road he was on for quite some time.

To my surprise, I found posts by Gill (and at this point, for all I know, others have already found these as well — this story promises to be very heavily covered by everyone because the guy had an online journal) on the Usenet.

Gill used the Yahoo address rogue_warrior_50@yahoo.ca, and in November of 2005, he posted to this newsgroup: http://groups.google.com/group/aps-global-solutions/.

I knew that e-mail address well. rogue_warrior_50@yahoo.ca had left comments on this very site. I understand that you’re skeptical. I would be too. Let me provide some photographic proof for you. This is a picture of my blog’s control panel…

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He went by the name Rogue and left the following comments…

On an entry about Christopher Penley, the Florida teen who was shot and killed at his school for brandishing a pellet gun at police, entitled “Was lethal force justified?”, Gill left this comment

The police used extreme force. It’s completely unacceptable. The Rebel was moving the gun in all directions, very fast. He didn’t once point, steady, stance and aim it. He was just swinging it around. And everyone knows you can’t kill someone like that, if you’re moving it around, at the sky, and whatever. No shots were fired by the young Rebel, he didn’t even hurt anyone.

That cop is a coward. He was attacked earlier in his life. And ever since that he has become paranoid, and scared. Like a girl after she gets raped. Afraid of everything and everyone. The police had been told earlier that it wasn’t even a real gun. They didn’t even mention that on T.V.

The police kill another innocent person

This comment was left on an entry about a high school murder plot

I don’t understand what’s wrong with this country. Two schoolgirls were playing around, joking if you will, and now they’re going to go to jail, just for a joke.

When I was in High School people would say they were going to kill each other all the time, no one got in trouble.

Why have the masses on this earth turned into cowards?

Where are the warriors

This comment on an entry about a teen who made a threat that he was going to use a pitchfork in a school attack…

A student at school makes a joke, and the police spend all their resources to stop him. “A little joke”

The young lad was just letting off some steam. Give him a break. Come on, where’s your sense of humour?

Nobody goes on a killing spree with a pitchfork.

The country is full of child molesters, priests, rapists, and child molesting priests. Can we perhaps take them off the streets before spending all law enforcement resources on a teenager’s prank.

You people make me sick

This comment on an entry about a Florida teen that threatened to shoot up his school

Poor Christopher

He did nothing wrong

Commit no crime

And now they’ve sent him to prison

It’s just not right

Well at least we can rest easy that this young lad will be free and back to his old tricks in a few short months

Here’s hopin’

This comment on an entry about a teen from Michigan who got in trouble for printing out a bomb threat on his school computer…

I can’t believe the school would over-react like that. Children at school can’t even joke around anymore. And for the police to go along with this, I mean, come on…..this is shocking.

They’re slowly turning the country into a police state

My friends and I have said things like that at when we were still in school, and we never thought we would go to jail for it. I don’t understand what kind of society this is. I thought we had freedom of speech.

IT’S JUST A JOKE PEOPLE, DAMN…..

This comment on my first post about the Riverton, Kansas school shooting plot

I had a feeling someone was going to try to do something like this on the 20th of this month. The cops got it all wrong. They wern’t going to do it for real. They’re just kids having a little fun. I hope the pigs don’t actually give them a fine or 2 weeks in jail, cuz’ that would be an injustice.

If they were really going to do this, they would not be posting messages on MySpace and telling people in their school about it.

I can’t believe the police have nothing better to do than waste tax payers money on stuff like this. I mean come on now……Boys will be boys

This comment on an entry about a threat made by a student that he claimed was a joke

Why would the student face disciplinary action?

It’s just a joke……we’re sending our kids to jail, and ruining their lives over silly childhood pranks

The governments really going over board here

It’s time to take the power back

This comment on an entry about a Washington State teen who was arrested for planning his own school shooting plot

How can the police arrest this young rebel, and send him to jail? He hasn’t done anything wrong. Many teenagers feel isolated and alone, and for such a reason they may create an imaginary reality within their own mind, such as shooting people.

If he was really going to kill alot of people then he wouldn’t be telling people he was going to do it. It’s just common sense. I believe he just wanted a little attention, nothing more.

Lets hope he gets outta jail soon, and the police give him back the guns the seized

For that comment I banned him from leaving comments on my site.

The last time I heard from him was from an e-mail he sent me which you can see here.

A chicken comes home to roost

Killer loved Columbine game:

MONTREAL — On a scary website, Kimveer Gill describes himself as a potential killer and admits that his favourite video game is Super Columbine Massacre.

For those of you just joining us Super Columbine Massacre RPG (or SCMRPG for short) is a homemade videogame put out by amateur game designer Danny Ledonne that puts you in the shoes of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold. I’ve previously called it something along the lines of a sick tribute to one of the most horrific mass murders of all time or something like that. 

I’ve emailed Mr. Ledonne asking for his comment about it but as of this posting I have yet to hear back from him.



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